Saturday Forum

An Idaho Reader, Refugee From California, Says It’s Impossible To Calculate How Much Aliens Pay In Taxes Since No One Knows How Many Are Here; etc.

From: Peter Brittain (e-mail him)

Re: Edwin S. Rubenstein’s Column: Schwarzenegger In Denial On Illegal Alien Costs

Can anyone tell me how the statisticians came up with the figures on taxes paid by illegal aliens?

How can the so-called experts arrive at a number when no one knows for sure how many aliens are here, where they are, who they are, what they are doing or where they may be working?

I’m sure that any estimate for taxes paid by illegals is too high.

An example: my wife had a shop in Laguna Beach, California about 19 years ago. She closed it before we moved to Idaho.

Her shop was next to a Western Union outlet. The manager told my wife that told her that long ago that he typically wired $30,000 a month to Mexico.

The illegal alien community in Laguna Beach was doing business in cash only...$5 or $6 dollars hourly and hamburgesas for lunch thrown into the deal.

How much of that money do you think had taxes paid on it? Since Laguna Beach is an illegal alien sanctuary, and the place is crawling with them now, I suspect most of the money sent to Mexico today is untaxed.

To highlight to my liberal friends how bad illegal alien fraud is, I bought a matricula consular card for $40 at MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.

It’s as phony as a $3 bill but it gets me $500 credit at the Bank of America, no questions asked.

And I don't even look Mexican!

A previous letter from Brittain explaining why he left California is here. Other letters from him are here.

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A California Reader Says Illegal Immigration Costs That Don’t Include Anchor Babies Are “Meaningless”

From: Steve Smith: (e-mail him)

Nobody can legitimately tabulate the cost of illegal immigration without including the costs of their anchor baby children. Calculations without that factor are meaningless.

Rather than arguing about the costs of illegal immigration, shouldn’t Americans be demanding an immigrant enumeration that would include environmental, economic, cultural and political costs of all immigrants—legal and illegal—and the costs of their children?

We’ve had more than forty years of massive immigration with virtually no thought or accounting as to its costs and no protection to the citizens from the immigrant invasion.

The government studies the costs of everything from soup to nuts; why is immigration exempt? Why is an immigration enumeration prohibited? Why can’t our government even count the number of illegal aliens in the country?

Why isn’t there a law requiring unauthorized aliens to register with the federal government or be subject to immediate deportation with no recourse?

If immigration is economically good for America, as its supporters claim, let them prove it. Show us an immigration accounting and point to the benefits.

If the true costs of immigration were ever accurately tabulated, Americans would demand an immediate overhaul and curtailing of our current immigration policies, the deportation of millions of illegal immigrants and a review of all past immigrant applications and a slew of massive new taxes on the profiteers of immigration.

Smith lives in Los Angeles. His previous letter about President George W. Bush, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and the Ameriquest Mortgage Company is here.

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A Reader Who Lived In Mexico Calls Illegal Immigrants In The U.S. “Dangerous”

From: Laura Gonzales (e-mail her)

Re: Brenda Walker’s Column: Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also…Drunk Driving!

I lived in Mexico for eight years when I was married to (now divorced from) a Mexican professional baseball player. I know all about Mexican men and their attitudes toward drinking and driving.

I have warned my American friends about how dangerous these illegal immigrants are because of the cultural beliefs and personal habits they bring with them.

Not only do many Mexicans have a total disregard for rule of law, but they also have a skewed, machismo view of women and, a dismissive attitude toward on drinking and driving.

My ex- and his friends believed that they were, as they liked to put it, better drivers when drunk because they knew they were drunk and so would be more cautious

At the games that lasted late into the night, there was a fellow baseball player's wife (both Mexicans) that would, around the 6th inning fill her two-year-old son's bottle with beer!

I asked her why she was giving her small son beer and if she didn't worry that that was bad for him. (Of course, here in the States it would have been branded as child abuse). The mother said that there was nothing wrong with beer and it helped to relax her boy and get him to sleep. She did this out in the open and no-one said a thing.

This isn't an isolated case. Many times at family parties the adults would laugh when a child would pick up a bottle of "papi's" beer and drink it.

Thanks to Walker for her columns and blogs. I worry that not enough Americans realize the dangerous problems illegal immigration brings with it.

Brenda Walker comments: I’m old enough to remember when driving drunk was not socially condemned in this country. But when MADD mounted an effective campaign to educate the public about the terrible cost in human life on the highways, Americans rapidly changed their attitude and behavior.

But by welcoming so many millions of Mexicans, we have turned back the clock on progress in many areas of society. It’s so frustrating.

Of course, it’s far worse than just frustrating for the people who lose family members to drunk-driving foreigners who don’t give a rat’s ass about responsibility.

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An Ohio Reader Suggests VDARE.COM Launch A “Refugee Of The Year” Award

From: Jason Wales (e-mail him)

Here’s an idea for VDARE.COM.

Each month you can select the most egregious criminal behavior by a refugee living in the U.S.

At the end of the year, readers can vote for the winner. An award would be mailed to the most prominent Treason Lobby member who has vigorously supported the resettlement of refugees in America.

For April, I nominate 21-yea-old Esar Met—in the U.S. a mere month— who killed seven-year-old Hser Nay Moo in Salt Lake. Met had only been in the country for 30 days. Met is one of 500 refugees from Myanmar living in Utah.

Police documents reveal that Moo was beaten and raped before being strangled to death. According to the Associated Press story, the police refuse to make details about the killing public so you can only imagine.[Man Admits Causing Death Of 7-Year-Old Immigrant Who Disappeared from Home, By Ace Stryker, Associated Press, April 2, 2008]

One gets the impression from the headline on Stryker's article that a “xenophobic nativist”—as we are so frequently called—killed an immigrant.

But as a schooled VDARE.COM follower, I've learned to put on my liberal filter and read between the lines.

The liberal’s mantra: Bring us your poor, your tired and your child murdering socio-paths.

Wales is a mental health counselor.

Joe Guzzardi suggests a more honest headline: “Refugee Murders 7-Year-Old Girl; Hides Her Body in His Apartment.”

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